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PostSubject: Quickdraw...   Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:33 pm

guys i was bored yesterday and i made a quickdraw deck and it works preety good but i think it need some seriosly changes especially at the traps...so here it is
Monsters 20:
3x quillbolt hedgehog
3x quickdraw synchron
3x genex neutron
2x flying kamakiri #1
2x lvl eater
2x dandylion
2x chaos end master
1x debris dragon
1x sangan
1x the calculator
Spells 10:
3x inferno reckless summon
3x tuning
1x dark hole
1x monster reborn
1x mind control
1x giant trunade
Traps 10:
2x urgent tuning
2x bottomles trap hole
3x revival gift
1x starlight road
1x mirror force
1x torrential tribute
Extra deck 15:
2x junk warrior
2x drill warrior
1x turbo warrior
1x junk archer
2x nitro warrior
2x road warrior
2x stardust dragon
2x scrap dragon
1x black rose dragon

so guys whoever know and want help me :)
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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:12 am

wha?

-3 genex neutron
-3 Hedgehog
-2 Chaos End Master
-2 Flying Kamakiri
-1/2 Level Eater
-1 the calculator
-1 Quickdraw Synchron

+2 Debris Dragon
+2 Lonefire Blossom
+1 Tytanial
+1 Spore
+1 Glow up Bulb
+1 Super-Nimble Mega Hamster
+3 Ryko, LIghtsworn Hunter
+1 Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress/Snowman Eater
+2 Caius, the Shadow Monarch

-2 Tuning
-3 Inferno Recless Summon
-2 Urgent Tuning

+3 Pot of Avarice
+2 Solemn Warning
+1 Cold Wave
+1 Solemn Judgment

Extra Deck
+2 Formula Synchron
+1 Armory Arm
+1 Catastor
+1 Goyo Guardian
+1 Brionac
+1 Black Rose Dragon
+1 Shooting Star Dragon

-1 Stardust Dragon
-1 Scrap Dragon
-1 Nitro Warrior
-1 Junk Archer
-2 Junk Warrior
-2 Road Warrior

EDIT : The fixes above are for a basic extra deck. If you want to keep your quickdraw deck original take out cards like chaos end master, and 1 quickdraw (3 is too much) for 2 tuningwares and some junk synchrons while keeping Tuning at too. And keep Road warrior at your extra deck.

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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:31 am

correct me if i am wrong but the changes you said are to make a quickdraw plant deck right?well i want a pure quickdraw deck so if you have something else let me know...
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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:34 am

Quickdraw cannot play without plants :P

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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:41 am

Myst i have a very interesting quickdraw build but i dont wanna post it yet i want to perfect it as much as i can. If you want the list pm me

@Vem: Not true..

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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:00 am

listen redgar the point isnt to just gain a powerfull deck so i can win......the point is to learn building a good deck which i suck!! only 2 decks i build perfectly all by myshelf and they rock the first is dark synchron and the second flamvell cat which got screwed by the update of banlist and for the records with flamvell cat deck i beat scorpion with result 2-0 at a tourney once...(still remembering the great wins back then :P)
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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:19 am

If you want to learn bulding good decks, use decklists you find on the interent. (Ignore people that say you netdck and stuff like that) . Netdecking is not bad for an amateur-intermediate player. By playing with it you will realize how the deck works and you will slowly begin to remove some cards to put some different cards of your choice which fit your playstyle better and you think are more useful in your duels.

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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:15 am

vem your advise is useless cause i tried this so many times and still i didnt get any result.......
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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:30 am

then u did not use the advise he gave you because i netdecked before and it helped me out and vem is right it helps u learn wht cards can be used in what decks
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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:56 am

I wouldn't say you CAN'T play QuickDraw without plants, but that's where they work best, or at least use dandylion. Redgar, your build interests me though, could you please pm me your decklist? Mysterious...what the heck man? Vem just spent a lot of time trying to help you and you gave him -2 rep. He wasn't insulting you by saying it's okay to netdeck. Even good player such as vem and I check to see what other cards players use and why they use them. It's like a base that you can go off of...usually you keep the engine and use your own tech. For my QuickDraw build, I took Jeff jones' original build, and slowly changed it to my playstyle and what I though would be better tech, and I also changed it to match the new format, and changed it when new supprot came out. Some of my changes were copied by other people, like not using ladd and night assailant. You can be unique while using the same basic engine. Clearly, netdecking isn't the only way to build decks, but it does help whether you're an amateur, intermediate, advanced, or a pro. We're not making you change the deck to be like everyone else, we're just trying to help
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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:04 am

If someone asks you to help him, telling him to netdeck before anything else is one of the worst advice, imho.
When building a deck, you have to think of possibilities. The posibility of having a monster in your hand, playing a trap, having your cards protected, having cards that will protect you from your opponent's cards, card advantage, etc.
When adding a card, think what could be better in that card's position. For example you put "Urgent Tuning" in this deck, probably thinking that first you attack with your monsters and then tune them to attack a second time.
Now think of the drawbacks:
it is a trap card, so rather slow,
you use it to synchro so with the used synchro materials you probably get -2
it doesn't save you from cards like mirror force etc,
you will, most likely, have to synchro summon to surpass the opponent's monster, so it won't be used
etc

About netdecking: netdecking is NOT a necessary evil. I don't netdeck because I have take pride in the decks I build. When you start building a new deck first think about the deck then take ideas about it and don't copy the whole damn thing. Games are not about winning, they're about gathering knowledge. An inexperience player that netdecks won't get experience. A medium-leveled player (like myself) can netdeck (though I wouldn't do it) to understand how a deck works. But that's if you're too lazy to think of it without playing. When you look at other players' decks, you should get ideas and think of how you use them for your own style of play (aggresive etc).

I like original decks the most. But what you most often will see are well known deck builds with twists, like a "Greenkappa" in an anti-meta deck.

Fixes that are not explained will not help an amateur (or even intermediate) player.

@Mys: you're doing it wrong :P Plus, don't be that harsh!
@vem: I'll give you back +2 rep but don't post dry changes, he's clearly trying to learn basic deck building.

~editing the text for fixes~

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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:13 am

harper chill a bit out will ya? i vote negative for vems post nothing personal i just didnt liked his advised cause i tried it and didnt helped me at all!!!!!! thats why i give him -1 rep not -2 as you said.....ok? netdecking never helped me and never will and also you can be sure i apreciate that you guys trying to help me out but chill out!

EDIT: @sinakis what am i doing wrong? explain that to me....

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vem your advise is useless cause i tried this so many times and still i didnt get any result.......
just joking ;)You should realy take a look at The_Dutch_Prince's article though! And the others' too.
~sin


sin i checked the article but i cant just understand what i am doing wrong...you can call me dummy,stupid,idiot,sucker w/e you want but i just cant understand!!! and i am harsh because i realise that i am wasting my time playing a game that i never can become good its my personal though and i am dissapointed thats all....well i think i will leave yugioh once again and i will "give my attention" to another spor like girls which i am better :P


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PostSubject: Re: Quickdraw...   Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:26 am

you just seemed a little harsh is all, saying his advice was useless and taking away rep for trying to help you. there's another variation of quickdraw that's actually okay, and that's using it with tuningware (which you do). but you still want the basic engine, so take vem's build, take out the tytannial/lonefire engine, maybe spore and super-nimble, and add 3 tuningware and a junk synchron or two and/or turbo synchron. also take out some other stuff for machine dupe or inferno reckless summons, and anothr tuning. one for one and level eater work well in that kind of deck also. sorry for the vague advice but i haven't tested that kind of deck before, i will post more later if i test it
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