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Harper7000 Amateur
Posts : 560 Join date : 2010-06-15 Location : United States
| Subject: Evil heroes (could use help) Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:02 pm | |
| I've always wanted to make one of these :D. This deck seems to start out well, I usually fuse first turn, but if the first fusion is gone too quickly I sometimes run out of options. The idea here is to hold the opponent down with royal decree/negation cards and then attack w/evil heroes. I'm thinking it could use a miracle fusion or two, and more elemental hero fusions, and more draw power, but idk. Help please! NOTE: I'm aware that dark Gaia otk decks are better, but I want to use a variety of fusions for this deck, so please do not suggest Gaia otk Evil hero deck 1.0 (40) Monsters: (20) Evil hero malicious edge x2 Gorz Evil hero infernal gainer Elemental hero stratos Elemental hero prisma Elemental hero avian x2 Elemental hero burstinatrix x2 Elemental hero sparkman x2 Elemental hero clayman x2 Elemental hero wildheart x2 The light, hex-sealed fusion x2 Morphing jar Magical merchant Spells: (16) Dark fusion x3 Dark calling x3 E-emergency call x2 RoTA Future fusion Brain control Heavy storm MST MBaaS Hand destruction Pot of avarice Traps: (4) Mirror force Torrential tribute Royal decree x2 Extra: (15) Evil hero malicious fiend x2 Evil hero dark Gaia x2 Evil hero inferno wing x2 Evil hero lightning golem x2 Evil hero infernal sniper x2 Evil hero wild cyclone x2 Elemental hero Phoenix enforcer Elemental hero thunder giant Elemental hero rampart blaster Other possible cards: Sangan Elemental hero gaia Elemental hero absolute zero Elemental hero Gaia Caius Tragoedia Destiny hero diamond dude Sangan Miracle fusion x2 Giant trunade Burial from the different dimension Cold wave Card destruction BTH x2 Return from the different dimension Call of the haunted | |
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Pharmacist New Member
Posts : 84 Join date : 2010-06-10
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:54 am | |
| well you only have 3 draw cards wich are morphing, hand destruction, and avarice...put in some cyber valley's, card destruction because you can get a really bad hand and card destruction can help you, put a couple more drawing cards and it'll be good ;) | |
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Harper7000 Amateur
Posts : 560 Join date : 2010-06-15 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:11 pm | |
| K, i'll find space for card destruction, and maybe cyber valley. I'm having a tough time thinking of any other easily splashable draw power cards though... What else should I putMaybe dark world dealings? Or maybe magical mallet, so I don't have to dump spells like dark fusion to draw more? Any other suggestions? | |
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redgar Administrator
Posts : 1404 Join date : 2010-05-04 Location : salonica FTW
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:35 pm | |
| Well you could try to ajust the deck to a D-Hero Engine concetrating on both Evil Hero Fusions and Absolute Zero(although it sounds pretty wierd :S). That could ease things cause D-Draw and allure could be added. Also if you wanna keep this version why not addind 3 reckless greed?
Also you run so many normal Ehroes it would be good to add a suggestion would be to add O-Oversoul or birthright for free ss and then add tuner/caius for extra dvantage and for empting the field for your fusion(s) :D
Finally king of the swamp could be added cause of it's double fusion effect | |
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Harper7000 Amateur
Posts : 560 Join date : 2010-06-15 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:24 pm | |
| Good suggestions redgar :). I like pure evil heroes, but I might try out that d-hero/evil hero build too. it IS weird, but who knows, it may work :P. I'll try both and see how it works out. I have the hex seals fusion for sub power... King of the swamp is better for most decks, but I don't even run poly in this deck, so I opted for a higher atk/def version of it. Tuners are pretty much always good, but idk if I have room for synchros with all the fusions. So basically the only problem is what to drop for 3 reckless greed, a caius or two and maybe tuners and synchros. Ideas? EDIT: here's my new decklist, I dropped wildheart, wild cyclone, wild wingman, infernal gainer, emergency call, and some other random stuff. I now have 6 draw power cards and 3 search power cards. Much better :D. But could possibly still use improvements. Also not sure whether to run gorz or tragoedia in this deck Evil hero 3.0 (40) Monsters: (18) Evil hero malicious edge x2 Gorz/tragoedia Caius Elemental hero stratos Elemental hero prisma Elemental hero avian x2 Elemental hero burstinatrix x2 Elemental hero sparkman x2 Elemental hero clayman x2 The dark, hex-sealed fusion x2 Morphing jar Magical merchant Spells: (16) Dark fusion x2 Dark calling x3 Miracle fusion x2 Future fusion Pot of avarice Hand destruction Card destruction RoTA Heavy storm MST MBaaS Brain control Traps: (6) Mirror force Torrential tribute Reckless greed x2 Royal decree x2 Extra: (15) Evil hero malicious fiend x2 Evil hero dark Gaia Evil hero inferno wing x2 Evil hero lightning golem x2 Evil hero infernal sniper x2 Elemental hero absolute zero Elemental hero Gaia x2 Elemental hero Phoenix enforcer Elemental hero thunder giant Elemental hero rampart blaster Side: (15) Light-imprisoning mirror (anti-ls) Consecrated light x2 (anti-dark) Tuner's scheme x2 (anti-synchro) Mirror of oaths x2 (anti-gb) System down x2 (anti-gadgets/cybers) Pulling the rug x2 (anti-monarchs) Kinetic soldier x2 (anti-six sam) Nobleman of crossout x2 Other cards possible cards: Evil hero infernal gainer Return from the different dimension O-oversoul Sangan BTH x2 E-emergency call Giant trunade Burial from the different dimension Lightning vortex Cold wave Call of the haunted
I'm still working on te evil/destiny hero build. Any other suggestions for this one? | |
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redgar Administrator
Posts : 1404 Join date : 2010-05-04 Location : salonica FTW
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:24 am | |
| Hmm Goz seems better cause i run trago mostly in synchro deck cause it's more flexible. Gorz here looks more standard.
The deck seems very good right now i only dont like 2 things
-1 Magical Merchant. I dont see the reason to run this guy since you run too many S/T -1 Dark Calling. 3 can be a dead draw since you are also run PoA that puts things back in the deck and you run Miracle Fusion as well.
+1 Caius/Gale/Plaguespreader +1 Allure(since your dark now cout up to 5) | |
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Fallen King Amateur
Posts : 61 Join date : 2010-06-05
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:13 am | |
| I agree with redgar here are my suggestions
-2 Royal Decree -1 Reckless -1 Dark Calling -1 Magican Merchant -1 Card Destruction
+1-2 Common Charity (7 targets) +1 Return From D.D. +2 BTH ( Bth is always straple to me) +1 Plague (perfect tuner)
Also Consider 1 more caius | |
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Harper7000 Amateur
Posts : 560 Join date : 2010-06-15 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:50 pm | |
| Yes!!! Common charity was just the deck-appropriate draw card that I was looking for.I have only added one for now, but might add a second or an allure as well, since I have 6 darks now. All other suggestions have also been taken. Here's the latest list: Evil hero 4.0 (40) Monsters: (19) Evil hero malicious edge x2 Gorz Caius x2 Elemental hero stratos Elemental hero prisma Elemental hero avian x2 Elemental hero burstinatrix x2 Elemental hero sparkman x2 Elemental hero clayman x2 The dark, hex-sealed fusion x2 Morphing jar Plaguespreader zombie Spells: (14) Dark fusion x2 Dark calling x2 Miracle fusion x2 Future fusion Pot of avarice Hand destruction RoTA Heavy storm MST MBaaS Brain control Traps: (7) Mirror force BTH x2 Torrential tribute Common charity Reckless greed RFTDD Extra: (15) Evil hero malicious fiend Evil hero dark Gaia Evil hero inferno wing Evil hero lightning golem Evil hero infernal sniper Elemental hero absolute zero Elemental hero Gaia Elemental hero Phoenix enforcer Elemental hero thunder giant Elemental hero rampart blaster Stardust dragon Red dragon archfiend Brionac dragon of the ice barrier Goyo guardian Ally of justice catastor Side: (15) Light-imprisoning mirror (anti-ls) Consecrated light x2 (anti-dark) Tuner's scheme x2 (anti-synchro) Mirror of oaths x2 (anti-gb) System down x2 (anti-gadgets/cybers) Pulling the rug x2 (anti-monarchs) Kinetic soldier x2 (anti-six sam) Nobleman of crossout x2 Other cards possible cards: Evil hero infernal gainer Blackwing gale the whirlwind Sangan Common charity Allure of darkness O-oversoul E-emergency call Giant trunade Burial from the different dimension Lightning vortex Cold wave Call of the haunted
it's looking pretty good now, thanks a bunch to everyone who has helped. I think this is about as good as it'll get, but any other suggestions/fixes? | |
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redgar Administrator
Posts : 1404 Join date : 2010-05-04 Location : salonica FTW
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:02 am | |
| The deck seems pretty nice as it is right now but i d add a 3rd miracle fusion just in case :) Also i dont really like reckless greed at one so you could take it out for a 2nd Common Charity | |
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Scorpion67 New Member
Posts : 184 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:40 am | |
| yeah its true Harper, you dont realy get advantage of reckless is you dont max it. Comon charity is a better choice ;) | |
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Harper7000 Amateur
Posts : 560 Join date : 2010-06-15 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:24 am | |
| k, Change made. But not miracle fusion, you just told me to take out 1 dark calling bc it was a dead draw, and I don't have any more elemental heroes than evil heroes. I don't feel like posting the whole list for one change lol, bit -1 reckless, +1 common charity. Thanks again guys | |
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redgar Administrator
Posts : 1404 Join date : 2010-05-04 Location : salonica FTW
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:29 am | |
| Miracle fusion works with evil heroes too when summoning Absolute Zero :) | |
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Fallen King Amateur
Posts : 61 Join date : 2010-06-05
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:09 am | |
| - redgar wrote:
- Miracle fusion works with evil heroes too when summoning Absolute Zero :)
Nah he doesn't run enough water so i wouldn't be great choice to add miracle fusion | |
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redgar Administrator
Posts : 1404 Join date : 2010-05-04 Location : salonica FTW
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:18 am | |
| I ve just noticed that sry
You could always add some water though :P | |
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Harper7000 Amateur
Posts : 560 Join date : 2010-06-15 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:20 am | |
| Yup, like the deep sea diva engine, but let's see if this one works, I still need to test it :P | |
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redgar Administrator
Posts : 1404 Join date : 2010-05-04 Location : salonica FTW
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:23 am | |
| Yeah i guess you re right i went ahead of myself again
GL testing it! | |
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Harper7000 Amateur
Posts : 560 Join date : 2010-06-15 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Evil heroes (could use help) Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:23 am | |
| It's 2-0 so far, but I'm still going to test it more when I get back. Btw, +1 rep to all that helped :) | |
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